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whiem was he at it paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't think so because they also reelected the house republicans. see, i think these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. this is a very close election. >> there is now nothing other than time in the gym that separates paul ryan and rush limbaugh. >> we're just laying down! and we didn't lose this election by that much especially when you look at the turnout. this was not a shellacking landslide. >> this is what rush limbaugh used to think it meant when a presidential candidate won 332 electoral college votes and he thought this right up until the day befo
whiem was he at it paul ryan helped mitt romney lose paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. paul ryan also managed to lose his hometown in wisconsin where he still lives. it wasn't paul ryan's youth and inexperience that sunk him, it was his ideas, his worship of ian rand and the ryan plan to end medicare as we know it and profoundly change america as we know it but don't expect paul ryan to admit that any time soon. >> the president wins 330 some electoral votes, does barack obama now have...
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paul ryan is he the leader of the republican party now? >> oh i wouldn't think so. paul ryan's a policy wonk. >> he's a policy wonk. basically right now i'm still the man. so how does speaker boehner, if he's the man and most reasonable guy in washington how does he get some of the conservatives, including even paul ryan a guy who is newly minted in some way with a little bit of juice, to come along? >> i think if you look at how this will actually unfold you find your answer tamron. the fact of the matter is a very small number of people will negotiate a deal or not. that includes speaker boehner. it includes majority leader reid and the white house. once they come up with a deal whatever it looks like it's going to be subject to an up or down vote. this isn't something you amend and say i'd like to offer an amendment to change that tax bracket. no, no. it's an up or down vote. at that point the pressure on the republican caucus will be overwhelming. you're going to find that plenty of members of congress from the republican party who are
paul ryan is he the leader of the republican party now? >> oh i wouldn't think so. paul ryan's a policy wonk. >> he's a policy wonk. basically right now i'm still the man. so how does speaker boehner, if he's the man and most reasonable guy in washington how does he get some of the conservatives, including even paul ryan a guy who is newly minted in some way with a little bit of juice, to come along? >> i think if you look at how this will actually unfold you find your answer...
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paul ryan makes a good point, though. i do agree. i don't think the president has a mandate per se but a lot of political capital. just depends how he wants to spend it and the republicans, if they don't want to risk being insignificant for the next four years they need to come to the table with some honest, tough solutions and try and compromise on some issues as does the president and we can get this country moving forward. that's what's been lacking for the last four years, president obama has a well-noted disdain for the process and he has to come to the table with some of these folks and use some of that political capital he did gain in that re-election. >> the last word. >> one quick point, hogan, the majority of americans actually voted for democratic candidates, not republican candidates in the house of republicans and it's only because of gerrymandering that republicans actually have control. if you look at states like north carolina, most of the people in north carolina actually voted for democratic house members, but repub
paul ryan makes a good point, though. i do agree. i don't think the president has a mandate per se but a lot of political capital. just depends how he wants to spend it and the republicans, if they don't want to risk being insignificant for the next four years they need to come to the table with some honest, tough solutions and try and compromise on some issues as does the president and we can get this country moving forward. that's what's been lacking for the last four years, president obama...
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>> paul ryan is a very pleasant man, but a very rigid one. and it's clear to me, he is for higher military spending, he is for keeping taxes low on the wealthiest people. he's trying to undo the legacy of domestic programs to improve the quality of life. i expect him to continue to do that. i do have to comment on this very strange complaint. apparently his complaint is that people voted. and people voted who were the kind of people who weren't supposed to vote. they tried to do voter suppression. this notion, oh, my god, we lost because people voted. it's a little like complaining, you know, we lost that ball game because the other team got too many runs. i mean, it literally makes no sense to complain you lost because people voted. that's what people are supposed to do. it does reveal their mentality, which is those people, those urban people. they're not supposed to vote. we can count on them not voting. they tried also, of course, to suppress the vote. when people rejected that and went out and exercised their rights ads citizens, they're
>> paul ryan is a very pleasant man, but a very rigid one. and it's clear to me, he is for higher military spending, he is for keeping taxes low on the wealthiest people. he's trying to undo the legacy of domestic programs to improve the quality of life. i expect him to continue to do that. i do have to comment on this very strange complaint. apparently his complaint is that people voted. and people voted who were the kind of people who weren't supposed to vote. they tried to do voter...
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returning to capitol hill yesterday for the first time since the election loss, paul ryan pointed to the republicans keeping control of the house as a sign that the country isn't yet sold on the democrats' agenda. >> whether people intended or not we've got divided government. >> you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these idea s we've talked about i think they're popular ideas. this was a close election and unfortunately, divided government didn't work well the last to years. we have to make sure it works the next two years. both parties have to talk to each other. >> reporter: can you see yourself supporting a plan for raising tax rates. >> rhyme not for tax hikes. i do not support raising tax rate, period. i've been saying that my entire career. >> note to house republicans, the p-90 x classes begin again this morning. >>> there is little confidence among the public that the two sides can find a compromise. look at this. only 38% believe the president and house republicans will re
returning to capitol hill yesterday for the first time since the election loss, paul ryan pointed to the republicans keeping control of the house as a sign that the country isn't yet sold on the democrats' agenda. >> whether people intended or not we've got divided government. >> you don't think there's a mandate here? >> i don't because then they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these idea s we've talked about i think they're popular...
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the man who ran for vice president, stick still congressman paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy wonk. >> oh, i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face of the idea that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. over the next few weeks, months, years. i mean, here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has ever been re-elected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we've got now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it
the man who ran for vice president, stick still congressman paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy wonk. >> oh, i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face of the idea that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing...
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paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these ideas we're talking about are popular ideas. >> these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. they were so popular, michelle, he lost the presidential election, he lost his home state of wisconsin, he even lost his hometown of janesville, but he says he has a mandate. >> look, mr. ryan has visions of 2016 dancing in his head. he can't admit that what he's based his entire legislative career on, this budget plan of his s a loser. he has also made noises, as dana points out, he wants to be part of the solution going forward. he's going to be a little more conciliatory than they have been in the past if they want to get anything done. because the republicans don't want this fiscal cliff bomb to go off, because then their priorities are going to be in the firing line. >> you could have fooled me, mic
paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge of the house of representatives. these ideas we're talking about are popular ideas. >> these ideas we talked about, i think they're popular ideas. they were so popular, michelle, he lost the presidential election, he lost his home state of wisconsin, he even lost his hometown of janesville, but he says he...
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was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think -- when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold. so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it. and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of jamesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win his home state. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. paul ryan is doing feets of strengths in the drawing room. >> hell, i'd like to see him carry wisconsin. >> reporter: so what happened in wisconsin? >> i think we got higher than that. a little bit. janesville has always voted democrat top of the ticket. wisconsin has always voted democrat top of the ticket so we knew it was an uphill battle but still fought. >> reporter: the president wins 330 some electoral votes, every battleground state with the exception of income, does barack obama now have a mandate? >> i don't
was that the campaign paul ryan would have run? >> oh, gosh. you know, i think -- when you join a ticket three months out, you join somebody's campaign. i was really impressed with the way mitt and ann brought us into the fold. so i was very encouraged by that. i really enjoyed it. and i wanted to run a big campaign on ideas. we did that. we ran on ideas. >> reporter: "saturday night live" poked fun at ryan, a native of jamesville, wisconsin, for failing to help romney win...
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and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their accusations straight. somebody on -- one of the leaders of the republican party out there in wisconsin said all the votes were fraudulent votes, they were all stolen. and now he's out there, the presidential candidate, saying they were all bought. and now this guy is -- i have to say to paul ryan, he was just surprised they showed up. he hasn't quite figured out the motive yet. >> i think the romney campaign obviously didn't take into account the huge turnout that the president got. that was one of the problems with their polling. >> is that why they're looking
and finally there's paul ryan on the urban vote. let's listen to paul ryan and his looking at this whole ethnic, or urban vote he calls it. >> we were surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout in especially urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> you know, ashley, they got to get their...
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speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation
speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you...
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as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this whirling vortex of deep denial and blame, especially those looking to run in 2016. louisiana governor bobby jindal was out at a mike within hours. >> i absolutely reject that notion, that description. i think that's absolutely wrong. i don't think that represents where we are as a party and where we're going as a party. >> well, into which dimension the party is headed still remains very much up for question. let's get right to our panel. here in new york joy reid is the managing editor of thegrio.com. msnbc contributor ari melber is a columnist for "the nation." and in washington msnbc contributor jared bernste
as for paul ryan, he just can't believe urban americans managed to leave their sad, cramped apartments and tenments and made the long trek to the voting booth. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> apparently mr. ryan forgot his opponents were giving out free birth control. should have seen that coming. now, some in the gop are trying to escape this...
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>> the next president of the united states paul ryan. >> my veins run with cheese. teach a man how to fish, he can feed himself for a life. don't simply feed fish. >> there are 47% who are with him who are dependent upon government. president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans. >> climate change is not a hoax. more droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke. it's called romnesia. it's like robin hood in reverse. governor romney doesn't have a five-point plan, he has a one-point plan. >> i can't believe all these guys sitting here. >> we have fewer horses and bayonets. >> i love you women. >> be the absolute last resort. >> from the reagan years. >> it too take me too long to go through the map. >> what did bill clinton call it. >> arithmetic. >> brought us binders full of women. >> it's almost like an etch-a-sket etch-a-sketch. ♪ god shed his grace on thee >> i like seeing the lakes. i love the lakes. i love cars. any old girlfriends here? >> you know what? they won, but it's like you cheat. 2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#:
>> the next president of the united states paul ryan. >> my veins run with cheese. teach a man how to fish, he can feed himself for a life. don't simply feed fish. >> there are 47% who are with him who are dependent upon government. president obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans. >> climate change is not a hoax. more droughts and floods and wildfires are not a joke. it's called romnesia. it's like robin hood in reverse. governor romney doesn't have a...
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>> what about paul ryan? i'm not sure you have a portrait he of paul ryan. >> we got famous with him lifting those weights. certainly, he goes to the very top of the list of the republican party of people who would be positioned to run in 2016. certainly for those parts of the republican party, people whobl, you know, what? maybe our nominee wasn't conservative enough rather than too conservative. people may say let's put paul ryan right there in the mix. >> thanks so much. we look forward to the new issue of "time" magazine out now, and we will be right back. >>> and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow on the show we examine why romney lost the election. plus, oscar-winning director oliver stone on the untold story of the united states. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great to see you. in the next hour developing news. right now former congresswoman gabrielle giffords is in a courtroom facing the man that tried to take her life. her hus
>> what about paul ryan? i'm not sure you have a portrait he of paul ryan. >> we got famous with him lifting those weights. certainly, he goes to the very top of the list of the republican party of people who would be positioned to run in 2016. certainly for those parts of the republican party, people whobl, you know, what? maybe our nominee wasn't conservative enough rather than too conservative. people may say let's put paul ryan right there in the mix. >> thanks so much. we...
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they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute and if you can get enough republicans to vote for it, terrific. >> if only the americans can see the look of befudslement and confusion when newt gingrich says things like no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea. bamboozled into this idea that the president just won re-election and the senate is still firmly in democratic hands. >> right. what he's basically saying is, to rank and file republicans vote with your district and forget about the phone call that john boehner had with all of you folks saying get in line, we actually have to have a record to run on in 2014. we can't be obstructionists anymore. the american people have spoken in the election, let's do something. newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, failed presidential candidate, giving advice to the republican party, i would advise the republican party to take that with a huge salt lick. >> yea
they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute and if you can get enough republicans to vote for it, terrific. >> if only the americans can see the look of befudslement and confusion when newt gingrich says things like no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea. bamboozled into this idea that the president just...
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instead, to say, paul ryan is going forth a solution, we'll gather votes for it. i guarantee you'll get the democratic substitute. >> what do you think about that congressman? >> i think the house is republican controlled, a consequence of redistricting. and it was the superpacs that were very engtive in some house races. the fact of the matter is, we gained and there still six out there to be decided. we could gain more. i think at the house level, for the house to continue the role its played for two years is bad advice. the issue the famous statement, what i mean by compromise, i think cantor said, we have to agree with us. that's gone now. the president has a pull pit that he can take to the public on these issues and increase pressure on congress. >> lot of other issues on the docket. whether it's in the lame duck or coming up in the new session of congress, gingrich also talked about the need for the republican party to come to grips with immigration after mitt romney's poor performance among latino voters. he got less than 30%. do you think republicans will
instead, to say, paul ryan is going forth a solution, we'll gather votes for it. i guarantee you'll get the democratic substitute. >> what do you think about that congressman? >> i think the house is republican controlled, a consequence of redistricting. and it was the superpacs that were very engtive in some house races. the fact of the matter is, we gained and there still six out there to be decided. we could gain more. i think at the house level, for the house to continue the...
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the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has been reelected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we have now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure b
the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point....
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what are we to make of paul ryan? >> he is the wonky guy. that was a dismissive comment that the speaker made. what he was trying to say is that he's coming back here, the same guy, as when he left. he's going to be a voice on certain issues, but he's not going to be a leader in the party. >> thank you very much. a pleasure having both of you on today. thank you. >>> coming up, john maca fee, he's wanted for questioning in the murder of his neighbor. details ahead. >>> and just moments ago, president obama finished meeting with labor leaders at the white house. how much leeway will the left give the president when it comes to medicare and social security? that's a question posed by our first read team. we'll check in with them. >>> plus what's being called one of the prison's prime gigs. what's a prime gig behind bars? it's just one of the things we thought you should know. [ forsythe ] we don't just come up here for the view up in alaska. it's the cleanest, clearest water. we find the best, sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [
what are we to make of paul ryan? >> he is the wonky guy. that was a dismissive comment that the speaker made. what he was trying to say is that he's coming back here, the same guy, as when he left. he's going to be a voice on certain issues, but he's not going to be a leader in the party. >> thank you very much. a pleasure having both of you on today. thank you. >>> coming up, john maca fee, he's wanted for questioning in the murder of his neighbor. details ahead....
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paul ryan who i think will be a leader. you have a whole rising young generation. you have bobby jindal, nikki haley. new senator in texas, marco rubio, a whole generation that were just a year or two short from running this time are all going to be in the fray next time. i think they are future. all this soul searching about what ideology we're going pursue and i think it will be reaganite and conservative one. >> jon: that is charles krauthammer with his take with mitt romney on the g.o.p. candidate and the future of the republican party. he was one of the bright stars or bright spots i guess. all the other media seemed to be down on the g.o.p.. >>> i think that charles krauthammer is interesting in this case it's a majority view. most people definitely believe that party needs to look at itself. there is a lot of soul stepping that needs to go on. the assumption that blacks and hispanics would not turn out -- when you have this statistic staring you in the face, 50,000 hispanic americans turn 18 every month in this country you better take a look at the party. >>
paul ryan who i think will be a leader. you have a whole rising young generation. you have bobby jindal, nikki haley. new senator in texas, marco rubio, a whole generation that were just a year or two short from running this time are all going to be in the fray next time. i think they are future. all this soul searching about what ideology we're going pursue and i think it will be reaganite and conservative one. >> jon: that is charles krauthammer with his take with mitt romney on the...
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can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what do you think she's going to do? any word? >> i have no idea. no idea. >> thank you for your honesty. go get me a cup of coffee. >> did you watch this program yesterday? debbie wassermann schultz said she's staying. most of the people i talk to say she's staying. i think her body language yesterday when she was sparring with the press a little bit suggest she's staying. and if we're wrong, i won't be here tomorrow. >> let's go back to congressman ryan and his comments. the interesting thing that president obama did yesterday,
can you lose paul ryan? i think almost anyone who wants to run for president in '16 is going to vote against this on the republican side. and so the question is, you know, who do you need? and i don't think you absolutely need paul ryan. but in the end, i think he'll vote for what's passed even with tax increases. >> speaking, as long as we're on the house as opposed to the senate, do you hear anything nancy pelosi is going to have a news conference, a press conference, later today? what...
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the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has been reelected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we have now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure b
the man who ran for vice president, paul ryan. >> congressman paul ryan, is he the leader of the republican party now? >> i wouldn't think so. paul ryan is a policy guy. >> i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. here's just a case in point....
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paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> we're surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas, which definitely gave president obama the big margin. to win this race. >> well, cynthia tucker, visiting professor of journalism at university of georgia and joan walsh, editor-at-large by salon. author of "what's the matter with white people"? that question seems apt. the l.a. times just posted a report on mitt romney's conference call today with top donors. it says romney, quote, attributed his rival's victory to, quote, the gifts the obama administration had given to blacks, hispanics and young voters during obama's first term. obama, romney argued, had been very generous, quotes
paul ryan -- there's more of this dog whistle crap going on. paul ryan expressing his surprise that the pro-obama turnout in an interview monday, two days ago, well after the election, they're still talking like this. let's listen to ryan here. >> we're surprised with the outcome. we knew this was going to be a close race. we thought we had a very good chance of winning it. i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas, which definitely gave...